{"id":9067,"date":"2023-10-05T13:21:19","date_gmt":"2023-10-05T11:21:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/2023\/10\/05\/agtrt-bdf11-non-binary-gender-through-the-lens-of-formal-gender-theory\/"},"modified":"2024-05-05T22:51:47","modified_gmt":"2024-05-05T20:51:47","slug":"agtrt-bdf11-non-binary-gender-through-the-lens-of-formal-gender-theory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/2023\/10\/05\/agtrt-bdf11-non-binary-gender-through-the-lens-of-formal-gender-theory\/","title":{"rendered":"[AGTRT-BF11] Non-binary gender through the lens of Formal Gender Theory"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Jan Bergstra &amp; Laurens Buijs <br>Amsterdam Gender Theory Research Team<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The most notable author on gender theory in recent years, as far as we can tell, is Robin Dembroff (self-proclaimed non-binary, Yale\/Princeton).  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In <em><a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/archive\/DEMWBN.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Why be nonbinar<\/a><\/em> (2018), Dembroff describes the essence of being nonbinary. We explained in <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/reports\/agtrt-1-formal-gender-theory-a-logical-perspective-on-dembroff-versus-byrne\/\">AGTRT-1<\/a> and in <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/reports\/agtrt-3-gender-triangularity-versus-gender-neo-imperialism-and-neutral-versus-nonbinary\/\">AGTRT-3<\/a> why we think neutral in the context of gender is a better term than non-binary, but because of the link to Dembroff&#8217;s paper, we still use the term non-binary here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We want to characterize Dembroff&#8217;s view from the results of our recent research on formal gender theory. We mention a few points.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center is-style-asterisk has-base-2-background-color has-background\"><em>Read more about our work on formal gender theory:<br><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/2023\/09\/26\/agtrt-bdf8-why-gender-science-may-pay-more-attention-to-formal-gender\/\">Why gender science may pay more attention to formal gender<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Dembroff argues that being nonbinary is an <em>opt-in only<\/em>, or in other words that you can belong to the nonbinary only on your own initiative. Therefore, according to Dembroff, non-binary is &#8220;radically anti-essentialist.&#8221; This is certainly correct, but we prefer to speak of &#8220;co-essentialism&#8221; (see <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/messages\/agtrt-m1-counter-essentialism-and-the-neo-gender-binary\/\">AGTRT-M1<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/messages\/agtrt-m5-gender-critical-a-co-essentialism-refuting-orientation-of-gender-theory\/\">AGTRT-M5<\/a>), because the belief that a person&#8217;s own psyche alone determines that they would be non-binary is also a form of essentialism.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dembroff leaves open whether man and woman are also <em>opt-in only<\/em> gender labels. If yes, Dembroff&#8217;s position is fully co-essentialist; if no, Dembroff&#8217;s position is partially co-essentialist, or selectively co-essentialist. In the latter case, in the absence of an <em>opt-in to<\/em> a gender, the gender assigned at birth is valid (i.e., <em>gender assigned at birth<\/em> is valid <em>by default<\/em>). We note that a compelling argument is made in <a href=\"https:\/\/philpapers.org\/rec\/BARGWG\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Barnes (2022)<\/a> that this attribution <em>by default<\/em> is necessary in some cases, particularly in the absence of a convincing <em>opt-in<\/em>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dembroff prefers to see the notion of gender become irrelevant: no secret about that. The choice to be non-binary is also a political choice against the dominance of gender as a concept imposed on people from outside. Dembroff is what we in <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/reports\/agtrt-7-gender-erosion-rebellion-versus-gender-erosion-indifference\/\">AGTRT-7<\/a> called <em>gender erosion indifferent <\/em>, or indifferent to the fact that gender differences can erode and thus disappear. This makes Dembroff an advocate rather than an opponent of what we in <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/messages\/agtrt-m4-responsible-transgendering-versus-capricious-transgendering\/\">AGTRT-M4<\/a> call &#8220;reckless transgendering&#8221;<em>(capricious transgendering<\/em>). We assume that Dembroff would find our notion of &#8220;responsible transgendering&#8221;<em>(responsible trasgendering<\/em>) nonsensical, or at least irrelevant, and and would find its use undesirable.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dembroff sees only a minority of nonbinary individuals as sexually neutral from birth: those with an intersex condition. Most nonbinary individuals are therefore transgender in the sense that they have gone from male to neutral or from female to neutral (in <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/reports\/agtrt-1-formal-gender-theory-a-logical-perspective-on-dembroff-versus-byrne\/\">AGTRT-1<\/a> terminology: <em>male-to-neutral transgender <\/em>and <em>female-to-neutral transgender<\/em>, or <em>transneutral<\/em>). Only a minority of these trans-neutral individuals see that transition as a solution to gender dysphoria; most, in opting <em>in <\/em>from non-binary, are making an essentially political move.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dembroff sees little in the distinction between gender categorization and gender identity, which we derive from Barnes (2022) and see as fundamental. For Dembroff, gender identity (i.e., self-identification) determines gender categorization. That, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/archive\/BOGWTT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Bogardus (2022)<\/a>, is an implausible construction. In <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/reports\/agtrt-1-formal-gender-theory-a-logical-perspective-on-dembroff-versus-byrne\/\">AGTRT-1<\/a>, we describe that Bogardus&#8217; doubts, while obvious, are not necessarily decisive.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dembroff leaves open whether there is also an <em>opt-out <\/em>of gender &#8220;man&#8221; without a simultaneous <em>opt-in <\/em>for either gender &#8220;female&#8221; or gender &#8220;neutral.&#8221; It is also unclear whether there is also an <em>opt-out <\/em>of gender &#8220;woman&#8221; without a simultaneous opt-in for either gender &#8220;man&#8221; or gender &#8220;neutral.&#8221; If such <em>opt-outs<\/em> without simultaneous <em>opt-in <\/em>are realistic, then this is where the <em>gender bottom <\/em>(or gender unknown, symbol ?) that we stage in <a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/reports\/agtrt-1-formal-gender-theory-a-logical-perspective-on-dembroff-versus-byrne\/\">AGTRT-1<\/a> arises, if not then there may be no such thing as a &#8220;loose&#8221; gender opt-out.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jan Bergstra &amp; Laurens Buijs Amsterdam Gender Theory Research Team The most notable author on gender theory in recent years, as far as we can tell, is Robin Dembroff (self-proclaimed non-binary, Yale\/Princeton). In Why be nonbinar (2018), Dembroff describes the essence of being nonbinary. We explained in AGTRT-1 and in AGTRT-3 why we think neutral [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":94225296,"featured_media":5011,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":4,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"federate","footnotes":""},"categories":[770841050],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9067","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-formal-gender-theory-en"],"rttpg_featured_image_url":{"full":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",2000,1252,false],"landscape":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",2000,1252,false],"portraits":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",2000,1252,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",150,94,false],"medium":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",300,188,false],"large":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",1024,641,false],"1536x1536":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",1536,962,false],"2048x2048":["https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/9a9c2-dembroff.jpg",2000,1252,false]},"rttpg_author":{"display_name":"Laurens Buijs","author_link":"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/author\/laurensjanbuijs\/"},"rttpg_comment":0,"rttpg_category":"<a href=\"https:\/\/gender-theory.org\/en\/category\/formal-gender-theory-en\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Formal Gender Theory<\/a>","rttpg_excerpt":"Jan Bergstra &amp; Laurens Buijs Amsterdam Gender Theory Research Team The most notable author on gender theory in recent years, as far as we can tell, is Robin Dembroff (self-proclaimed non-binary, Yale\/Princeton). 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